any other book in history other thant bible. he leads one of america's largest congregations in his saddleback church in california. pastor rick warren joins us for a discussion on faith and charity. then, he's the world's richest man, founder of computer giant microsoft. together with his wife, melinda, bill gates also runs the largest private charitable foundation in the world. they're here exclusively to discuss their mission to improve global health and education. but first, our focus on giving thanks and helping others during a tumultuous period in our country economically and politically. with us pastor, best-selling author, and be no stranger to washington, rick warren. pastor rick warren, welcome back to "meet the press." i will call you pastor rick. >> just call me rick. just call me for dinner. >> what is testing the faith of americans, do you think, as you approach this holiday season? >> well, no doubt about the economy, the war in afghanistan, but also i just think the political visions are a big deal that the coarsening of our society, demonizing differences. those thi